During some research, came across this page. It's the most hateful, war-mongering, misogynistic, atavistic, hate-crime supporting, and sickening example of Christian brainwashing I've ever seen. And it's intended for kids.
This is the kind of guy who reads the Left Behind novels with demented glee.
…the same thing in her head and heart. Something sharp and deadly.
In the fourth chapter of Judges, in Jerusalem, near Mount Tabor, a military captain named Sisera stopped at the tent of woman named Jael, and hid in her tent after battle. She brought him something to drink, covered him with a blanket, and he laid down to rest. Soon, she crept into the tent and drove a tent peg through his temple and into the ground.
Cue the chorus of angels, as we give thanks to our blessed loving God.
Now, in the discussion of this story, aimed at children, mind you, the prick who wrote this page, is one Steve Van Nattan, who revealed his true nature, and illus-trated in disturbing fashion, how Christian zealots are corrupting young minds in the service of their hideous God.
War is a thing God does not like. People get killed, and that pleases Satan.
I laughed out loud to that one. If you've read any of the volumes in this book, you know that this is a blatant lie. There are plenty of examples of war-mongering on the part of God. But of course, Christians can always blame Satan for anything that might cause a stir with rational, compassionate people.
And who gets to decide who is wicked? People like Steve Van Nutjob? Or any of the hundreds of other misled Christians who kill in God's name?
And I'm sure there are plenty of God-loving Christians who will push the button to make that happen.
In the story of Barak and Jael, did you notice how timid Barak was. God intends for men to lead. That was true with Abraham who went and rescued his backslidden nephew, Lot. Men were strong leaders many years after Barak's day with Samuel, King Saul, King David, King Solomon, and all the kings of Judah. David had 400 mighty men who were fearless in defending Israel and their families. One of David's men jumped right down into a pit to kill a Lion on a snowy day in the winter. Jehu defended Israel against Satanic witchcraft when he killed all the prophets of Baal. Elijah killed 400 prophets of Baal with his own hands down by the river. Elijah didn't ask someone else to do it.
Killing, killing and more killing. This makes you righteous. See how this brainwashing thing is done? Align the young minds with a sense of duty to this ubiquitous God, and then arm them, and then tell them it's okay to do just about anything as long as they feel it's God's will.
Again, who decides how to define, how to defend, when to defend, and who to defend against? Who is wicked? What are Satan's strongholds?
No. Ask your mom and dad to take you to a secular psychologist and a deprogrammer, because you are the serial killers of the future. This reminds me of Jesus Camp. And by all means, tell these little boys to seek out adults who kill and maim and torture for God.
Well first of all, this nutball doesn't know his Bible like he thinks he does. As I've shown, sodomites were NOT homosexuals. This is a mistranslation, a perpetuated lie, and a convenient excuse to exercise the hatred that some Christians carry around inside themselves.
Notice that punching someone in the mouth was the answer. Not, "I'm not gay, so buzz off." Violence was the solution, and JOY was the result. Joy, stemming from a self-imposed piety and righteousness based on lies, mistranslation and hatred.
See? Violence is okay if you're doing it for God. This is what the Bible teaches Christians, and this is what the adult Christians are training the children of the world to do. If one of those little boys reads this and sees a man he believes is gay, he is very likely to borrow his daddy's gun and shoot him in the head. But that would be okay, because he'd be killing a sodomite for God.
Because if you aren't willing to commit violent acts, you are a wimp and you also run the risk of burning in Hell.
I'm already cringing, aren't you?
A nappy poo? The blatant glibness of this, in light of what is about to happen, is just sickening. And what is this, 1952? But then, that image is obliterated by the juxtaposition of the submissive homemaker, turning into Xena the Warrior Princess…it's like the Christian Stepford Wives.
May I suggest you go look for her right now?
Isn't it funny how all these people who preach the Word, are so sure they're going to be in heaven? Jesus said that most of us won't make it to those pearly gates. The rest will burn in hell. But you know, there's only room for 144,000 of the Chosen (REV 7:3-8). That's 12,000 from each Tribe of Israel. Are you a member of one of the Tribes of Israel, Mr. Christian-pastor-person? Don't forget to write the names "Jesus" and "God" on your forehead before you arrive (REV 14:1). Remember to take your Sharpie marker. And you'll have to learn that new song, whatever it is, because you have never lied and are blameless (REV 14:3-5). Oh yeah, and 144,000 is also a significant cycle of time called baktun in the Mayan Calendar.* That's pagan, by the way.
Which is where all women belong. And UNDER you. That's also where they belong. And I mean that in the usual and biblical sense.
Why yes, I am. She lived a hard life of subservience to misogynistic idiots like you. (He's not talking about Rosie the Riveter, here).
All models are stupid and dirty. Got it. Wait, Angelina Jolie is skinny, but I've seen her shoot an AK-47, and kick the shit out of a big tough religious zealot. And she does all the work saving children from starvation and homelessness in the region where Jael used to live. Is she still stupid and dirty? And what about the Hollywood starlets who have some muscle and are not skinny? Are they stupid and dirty? What about the models who do the plus size or maternity wear modeling? Are they stupid and dirty?
Once more, how do Christians know about these things that God wants? They can't even agree on His essential nature, which is a contradiction at every turn. What if I say "God told me to go out and get a job so we can feed and clothe our children and pay the electric bill?"
Yeah like drive tent pegs through the heads of men while they are having a nappy-poo.
Yes, that's true. God does like to USE people to do His dirty work.
Feminist scummy wimps? How about, "Feminism: the radical notion that women are people." (2)
Well, because I don't believe Tupperware or bowling had been invented yet.
Especially if she was off bowling or selling Tupperware all over town.
SEE? I told you. Women belong in the home. © 1952.
The blessing of killing?
Oh! I didn't know you meant the Jews would sing about her! (wait, don't Christians hate Jews for killing Jesus?) And I didn't know she'd end up in a 2000 year old collection of writing by backward misogynistic men from a foreign country! If I'd known that, I would have held that bastard's head down so she could aim properly.
Unqualified? The only qualification back then was to have a vagina.
Of course not! You can murder sleeping men right in your very own home. (Hurry. Operators are now standing by).
Then what's all this stuff I keep hearing about house-husbands and stay-at-home dads?
Yes, Men in the Iron Age loved having that cubicle to go to everyday.
Because she has a vagina, and is thus unfit for penis-work.
Like that Gay man or lesbian with the cheek to walk past you on YOUR street.
But it's okay to use a tent peg, like Jael did, on sleeping people. I'm sure it was self defense.
No, hunt trophies to hang on GOD'S WALL.
Um, hello. So is your Christmas tree, Santa Claus, December 25th, gift-giving, mistletoe, Christmas stockings, Christmas dinner, temples. Incense, lamps, candles, wedding rings, Christmas carols, the word "holy" which came from the German, hulis, and meant holly, which was a sacred pagan plant, the Jesus Fish symbol, which was an ancient symbol used by Buddhists and pagans, the symbol of the cross. Altars, vestments, steeples, hymns, prayer posture, and the word, amen. Among other things.
In other words, kill gay people.
In other words, don't marry a girl who has a sense of self, recognizes the importance of education and paying her bills, or who learns enough about the Bible to know you're full of crap.
Translation: find a time machine and travel back to 1945, kidnap a woman and bring her into this century, so she can live like those in 1000 BCE. Better yet, find a time machine, travel back to 1000 BCE, and then DESTROY the time machine.
Even if that means your Daddy has peculiar and upsetting ideas about submitting to him. It's okay if he touches you like that, he's a man of God. Creepy.
Even that peculiar touching thing?
Yeah because kitchens are for women, who are wimpy anyway, except when they're wielding tent spikes. And a man shouldn't try to learn to cook or help you clean up, and we all know that keeping house and cooking in the kitchen is easy work, that only women can do. I'm sure Emeril Lagasse would beg to differ.
Yes, all women need a man who always steps right into trouble.
Oh don't get me started.
Like that tenderizing mallet from that kitchen you're always in. Isn't there someone you can bludgeon for Jesus?
If you are a girl, you must have noticed how many public school teachers and other folks try to make women just like men. Did Jael stop being a lady to do this great work for God? Not at all-- she was a lady before and after she nailed that wicked old king to the floor.
Yes, I have a clear image of how ladylike that must have been, what with the blood and brain matter splattering all over the tent, and her face.
Like breaking rocks in the prison yard for hammering a spike in someone's head for Jesus?
Wait. Didn't you just say she should look for a boy who "steps right into trouble?"
Not only do we want you to live according to this drivel, we want you to work here too, so you won't stray too far from the fold. The smothering, brainwashing, hateful fold.
Oh yeah? What if she's a lesbian lady? Should you whip out your tent spike?
That much is becoming clear. Even the bad attitudes.
Yes, wash that blood off those hands on a regular basis.
Why is there always a battle? I thought Christians were peace-loving?
Oh I remember Mom and Dad coming home with blood and brainmatter all over them, the severed fingers of gay people kind of tucked here and there, the smell of brimstone, the horn punctures in their sides. But they were always smiling, Mom and Dad. Good times, good times.
Dad and Mom don't always tell you about all the ugly things they have to take care of
Why not? You did. Jael. In the tent. With a spike.
Yeah that damn horny Steven, wearing a red leotard with that pointy tail, at the water cooler. What a fool.
Yes, break into a pagan chorus and throw pagan mistletoe at him! He'll like that.
I tune pianos to help our home's expenses, and I have to tune pianos in some homes of Satanists and disgusting people. They have dirty mouths and some of them nag me all the way through the tuning. I seldom have the blessing of getting into a Christian home.
Oh please come tune my piano. PLEASE.
You poor thing!! All that tweaking of strings must be back-breaking! Is that the hard labor to which you refer?
Someone? You don't know who they are? Maybe it's your wife.
I see you've got the little robots all trained to your liking.
That's assuming, of course, that all pastors are serving God.
Ask God to keep him strong with mighty hands in the work of Jesus Christ.
Killing and spikes and blood, oh my.
Yeah, that Satan is so powerful that one tiny pastor can win a whole war against him.
Van Nattan's bio on the website reads:
Just a side note, here. Scholars are pretty much agreed that Jesus would not have been a carpenter, but a stonemason. And he could not have been from Nazareth, because Nazareth wasn't THERE during the time of Christ. Just sayin'.
No, yours is the really damaging kind.
Yes, let's spread this hateful tripe to other countries, shall we? They don't quite hate us enough.
Yeah, you want that piano in tune, so you can sing Onward Christian Soldiers, marching as to war! Loud enough so God can hear it.
A vegetable often mistaken for this guy's head.
Spreading the gospel of hatred on the airwaves.
>Servant to all but slave of Jesus Christ only
Your editor is also a very dangerous Fundamentalist
I'll say he is.
And I thought he was only the Assistant to the Editor? Oh, Right. Fundies often forget they are not GOD.
Let me just say that I believe down to my very marrow that the religious indoctrination of children is the lowest form of child abuse.
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(1)Finley, Michael (2002). "Note on the Maya Calendar". The Real Maya Prophecies: Astronomy in the Inscriptions and Codices. Maya Astronomy. http://members.shaw.ca/mjfinley/calnote.htm. Retrieved 2010-04-07.
(2)~Cheris Kramarae and Paula Treichler
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